Dec 22, 2006, 10:11 AM // 10:11
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#2
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Banned
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Belgium
Guild: [ROSE]
Profession: A/
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And this is very usefull.
(not flaming, but I bet this is what the flamez will be about )
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Dec 22, 2006, 10:13 AM // 10:13
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#3
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Sep 2005
Guild: Storm Bearers[SB]
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-Fertile Seasons
-Symbiosis
-Lots of enchantments on you
-Life Attunement+Aura of Faith on target
-Healer's Boon+Divine Boon on you
-Use Infuse
Biggest heal I've seen was 10k I think. That was a while back and with only 4-5 people IIRC. Completely useless in real play of course...
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Dec 22, 2006, 08:53 PM // 20:53
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#4
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: sh*tvill england
Guild: tgc
Profession: Mo/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xasew
-Fertile Seasons
-Symbiosis
-Lots of enchantments on you
-Life Attunement+Aura of Faith on target
-Healer's Boon+Divine Boon on you
-Use Infuse
Biggest heal I've seen was 10k I think. That was a while back and with only 4-5 people IIRC. Completely useless in real play of course...
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true, but if u put more enchantments on them could kiss, do better, ive laways wondered how big kiss could heal for :P
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Dec 22, 2006, 09:35 PM // 21:35
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#5
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Domain of Broken Game Mechanics
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At 16 heal:
- Infuse Health heals for 1.38*0.5 = 69% of your maximum health
- Dwayna's Kiss heals for 63 + 37x, where x is the number of enchantments and hexes on the target.
Symbiosis gives +158 hp/ench at 16 BM. This translates to 158*0.69 = 109 points of healing. Even ignoring all of the other ways to buff the infuser's health, it should be clear that Dwayna's Kiss can never heal for more than Infuse Health, no matter how many enchantments you use.
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Dec 23, 2006, 01:22 AM // 01:22
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#6
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Frost Gate Guardian
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Burst Cancel
it should be clear that Dwayna's Kiss can never heal for more than Infuse Health, no matter how many enchantments you use.
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this is only true without dp, seeing as how infuse depends on your health and dwaynas kiss depends on enchants. So anything that lowers the amount of health you have (dp, runes, AoTl) would reduce the heal of infuse but not of kiss.
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Dec 23, 2006, 03:05 AM // 03:05
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#7
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Domain of Broken Game Mechanics
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Well, we're trying to find the largest spike heal we can get, so there's no point in talking about DP, Aura of the Lich, etc., because we already know that it will lower the heal. The point is that, in terms of maximum healing power, Infuse Health will beat Kiss.
But consider the worst-case scenario: the healer has 1 base health. Each enchantment still adds 109 health under symbiosis, meaning Infuse *still* heals for more. Here's the (simple) math for 1 hp base, and 1 enchantment under symbi.
Infuse Health heals for: (1+158)*0.69 = 109 (or 110? does it round or truncate?)
Dwayna's Kiss heals for: 63+37 = 100
So even with a base health of 1, Infuse Health heals for 9 health more than Dwayna's. Adding any enchantments only makes it worse, because each enchantment adds 109 to Infuse, whereas it only adds 37 to Kiss. The only time Dwayna's will heal for more is if there are no enchantments.
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Dec 23, 2006, 09:26 AM // 09:26
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#8
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: sh*tvill england
Guild: tgc
Profession: Mo/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Burst Cancel
So even with a base health of 1, Infuse Health heals for 9 health more than Dwayna's. Adding any enchantments only makes it worse, because each enchantment adds 109 to Infuse, whereas it only adds 37 to Kiss. The only time Dwayna's will heal for more is if there are no enchantments.
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k cheers for that, but how does an enchantment make infuse heal for an extra 109 hp?
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Dec 23, 2006, 11:52 AM // 11:52
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#9
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Sep 2005
Profession: Mo/Me
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Quote:
Originally Posted by olly123
k cheers for that, but how does an enchantment make infuse heal for an extra 109 hp?
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[skill]Symbiosis[/skill]
Every enchant on the infuser = 158 extra health, the infuser has min health of 1, and infuse heals for 0.69 of max health. Every enchant adds 158 to max health, making for 109 healing extra on the infuse.
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Dec 27, 2006, 08:06 PM // 20:06
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#10
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: sh*tvill england
Guild: tgc
Profession: Mo/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dgb
[skill]Symbiosis[/skill]
Every enchant on the infuser = 158 extra health, the infuser has min health of 1, and infuse heals for 0.69 of max health. Every enchant adds 158 to max health, making for 109 healing extra on the infuse.
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ahhh cheers again, so i take it u put a silly enchantment ( say mending) on ur self ( the infuser) and heal away
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